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LISTEN: The Kirby Wilbur Show, 3PM Hour, November 17, 2020

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President-elect Joe Biden attends a national security briefing at The Queen theater, Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2020, in Wilmington, Del. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)

As an expert on foreign affairs, defense, intelligence and homeland security issues- our guest is Jim Carafano-he has testified many times before Congress. Carafano now directs Heritage's team of foreign and defense policy experts in three centers on the front lines of international affairs: the Allison Center, the Asian Studies Center, the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, and the Center for National Defense. Our other guest this hour is Cliff Mass-our weather expert-you can read his blog HERE.

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