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LISTEN: The Kirby Wilbur Show, 4PM Hour, July 27, 2020

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Nurse Kathe Olmstead prepares a shot as the world's biggest study of a possible COVID-19 vaccine, developed by the National Institutes of Health and Moderna Inc., gets underway Monday, July 27, 2020, in Binghamton, N.Y. (AP Photo/Hans Pennink)

Kirby's guest is Maia Espinoza-candidate for Superintendent of Public Instruction, a poll shows that more and more Americans are concerned about rising crime rates where they live-a full 77% in fact, and a former teacher has left teaching because of the politics and problems in our education system.

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