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LISTEN: The Kirby Wilbur Show, 4PM Hour, September 29, 2020

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Smoke rises over a vineyard as the Glass Fire burns, Monday, Sept. 28, 2020, in Calistoga, Calif. (AP Photo/Noah Berger)

This hour Kirby breaks down what each candidate needs to do tonight during the Presidential debate in order to make an impact and take the lead, the continuing violence from protestors and their unrealistic goals plus Suzy Levine and the mess in the Employment Security Department.

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